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Friday, May 05, 2006 

Taxpayers Federation YANKS Offensive Blog

The Canadian Taxpayers Federation have yanked an offensive blog entry posted by their Saskatchewan director, David McLean! Rather than doing the right thing and extending an apology and retraction, the group simply pulled the thread and are now crossing their fingers and hoping that it will all just go away. In the offensive blog entry, Mr. McLean posted the following words:

"Yet in 1938, according to both William Shirer and John Toland, the Nazi regime held no more than 20,000 political prisoners. Political executions up to the time might have reached a couple thousand, and most of these were of renegade Nazis themselves during the indiscriminate butchery known as the "Night of the Long Knives." The famous Kristallnacht that horrified civilized opinion worldwide caused a grand total of 71 deaths. This in a nation of 70 million. Cuba was a nation of 6.5 million in 1959. Within three months in power, Castro and Che had shamed the Nazi prewar incarceration and murder rate."

Buckdog has recorded ALL entries in the offensive thread and will post them here in the near future. Essentially, Mr. Mclean got himself into trouble by advocating the false notion that post revolution activites in Cuba were equal to the Nazi Holocaust. This type of 'Zundelesque' trivialization of the Holocaust cannot be tolerated by anyone. Mr. McLean and the Canadian Taxpayers Federation owe us all an apology for this bizarre attempt at historical revision. Shame on them!

You mean stuff like this?

"Cuba was a nation of 6.5 million in 1959. Within three months in power Castro and Che had shamed the Nazi prewar incarceration and murder rate.

One defector claims Che signed 500 death warrants, another says over 600. Cuban journalist Luis Ortega who knew Che as early as 1954 writes in his book "Yo Soy El Che!" that Guevara sent 1,897 men to the firing squad.

In his book "Che Guevara: A Biography," Daniel James writes that Che himself admitted to ordering "several thousand" executions during the first few years of the Castro regime. "

From sites like http://www.amigospais-guaracabuya.org/oaghf019.php

And personal accounts like this.

"Carlos Machado was 15 years old in 1963 when the bullets shattered his body. His twin brother and father collapsed beside Carlos from the same volley. All had resisted Castro's theft of their humble family farm.

On Christmas eve 1961 Juana Diaz spat in the face of the executioners who were binding and gagging her. They'd found her guilty of feeding and hiding "bandits" (Cuban rednecks who took up arms to fight the theft of their land) When the blast from that firing squad demolished her face and torso Juana was six months pregnant. "

From

http://www.mensnewsdaily.
com/archive/f/fontova/2005/fontova101005.htm

And hows about a direct quote from the great humanitarian himself.

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary,"

declared the Cuban Revolution's chief executioner, Che Guevara.

"These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate."

Is it actually maybe possible that both Hitler and Che were evil?

No, it couldn't be, could it? The mind wobbles.

I will repeat to you what I said to your colleague on a separate thread on this blogsite:
"You absolutely are diminishing the horrors of the holocaust. Your intense hatred of anything politically 'left' is such that you felt you could get away with exagerating historical fact to suit your anti-left agenda. By advocating that the post revolution Cuban situation and the horrors of 8 million Jewish people being killed by Hitler were different only by the 'number of deaths' is preposterous, offensive, ignorant and worthy of all of the outrage you and your association are receiving. In the thread that you have deleted (and are running away from) you made your opinion very clear that the only difference between the Cuban post-revolutionary era and the Nazi Holocaust is the total number killed."

First off I have no affiliation with the CTF.

Secondly, it is a known fact that communism has resulted in innumerable atrocities every bit as reprehensible as those perpetrated by the Nazi's, and yes when you add them all up the body count is higher.

Thirdly, that does not however diminish in any way the horrors of the holocaust.

Fourthly, and the communists did it for the same reasons as the Nazi's to try and create a 'pure' and 'ideal' society.


Finally, your bizarre attempt to misrepresent and skew everything you read leaves one to conclude that it is actually you who are trivialising the horror suffering, and wholesale slaughter of millions.

Time for some more 'lies' then.

Communism was responsible for between 85 million and 100 million deaths in the 20th century.

25 million in Russia during the Bolshevik and Stalinist eras according to the KGB archives(must have been run by a bunch of conservatives) .

65 million in China under Mao Zedong.

2 million in Cambodia,and millions more in Africa, Eastern Europe, and Latin America.

But apparently they had kickass health care.(yeah right)

Hey moneybags, you said "First off I have no affiliation with the CTF" hmmm... maybe you should apply to work there, I think they may like your world view.

Ooooh, feel the burn.

The point that David McLean and the Taxpayers Federation just don't get is the reason that the Nazi Holocaust is so particularly vile in human history. Hitler and the nazis killed millions and millions of people in an industrial scale mega-project of extermination BECAUSE THEY EXISTED! To the nazi's the simple fact that these people were 'alive' was the reason for their deaths. History is filled with outrages and mass murders that makes us all sick to even think of them - but the Holocaust is significant in the annals of human evil because Jewish people were killed for being alive. You are referencing other wars, struggles, conflicts but we will NOT allow you to minimize the Holocaust to suit your anti-left agenda.

P.S. - Oh by the way moneybags, the reason you should apply to work for the CTF is because I think they will be looking for a new Saskatchewan director in the not too distant future!

My, but you are ignorant of history.

The commies killed all those people because they existed as well, it just wasn't always based on ethnicity, though sometimes it was.

It was usually based on class, political belief's,religous beliefs and many times just for the hell of it, to put the fear of God into the populace.

Why you choose to defend such actions speaks volumes about your moral and ethical standards or lack there of.

moneybags- your ignorance of the Holocause is astounding - astounding.
I am so glad you spelled out your beliefs for all to see. You simply do not get it. Are you sure that you aren't really someone from the CTF?????

I have never disagreed with anything you have said about the holocaust.

I acknowledge that it happened, I acknowledge the number killed, I acknowledge the methods you described, I acknowledge the motivation you gave. And I acknowlege that it was wrong in the most profound and evil way.

Why is it that you refuse to say the same about communism?

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